Ripper Caught

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By
Darkmage on Sunday, January 17, 1999 - 10:39 pm:

What most of us knew pretty much beyond doubt to be true has been proven (finally).
Starks is a ripper. Not only that, he didn't even bother to modify his rip, and stole his art from one of the best known fantasy artists around.

In any case, below are links to the release by Starks and to the original by Brom.
Enjoy.

The Rip: http://www.flash.net/~jae/yb-rdrgn.jpg

The Original: http://www.webstorage.com/~ervlord/bromRDrag.html
(slow loading page, be patient)

Original artwork found by jae/toon goon of iCE.

-darkmage[iCE]


By BlueDevil on Sunday, January 17, 1999 - 11:28 pm:

Fluid must be put to a end all it is doing is harboring a group of rippers its another " society" if you will this kind of shit has no place in our scene and it must be dealt with accordingly


By Filth on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 12:01 am:

starks is an idiot. he's just like coriilous (or whatever his dumb nick is) he keeps ripping, and ripping, and ripping.

god, i live stupid kids!@


By Quip on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 08:47 am:

Not only does he keep ripping, he harrasses people like me, who are content where they are, to join his group.

So, who's bringing the gun? =)


By Mongi on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 10:55 am:

now now, take it easy. Poor Starks is a ripper.. that's enough. It's like shooting a mongoloid kid, it just isn't worth it.


By Filth on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 12:27 pm:

<Starks> yo
<filth> wassup :)
<Starks> u really need to ask?
<filth> ahahaha, why in the fuck did you rip?
<Starks> I only ripped 3 vgas, not more
<Starks> because a lot of people I saw, doing this
<filth> big deal? you think becuase other people suck you should too?
<Starks> but no1 respected me before and every1 leaughed at me

heh, i found that to be quite funny, so i thought i'd share. :)


By God among Lice on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 12:54 pm:

The sorriest part is that he actually did care for his group and got some decent people to join... I mean for a second pack it wasn't that bad at all. But he then had to go and ruin any credibility the group might have gained by releasing the rip.

ah well.


By Blue Devil on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 01:04 pm:

Quip, I got the gun if your down to go have some fun, If you got the time I got the crime yoe =)
Definately after being constantly bugged by Starks for ops, to join his group, I am glad to have this reprisal come back on him


By Mongi on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 01:45 pm:

Fluid actually had a lot of members not really aware of what their work was used for. They hardly knew they were members of an artgroup, and surely don't what the underground artscene is.

boy, this is the most enjoyable ripper catch so far.


By Mongi on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 01:48 pm:

Hey Filth (prince of ripper-hunters), even you must be impressed by this =) nah...


By Wwow on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 12:25 am:

when looked at the pack as a whole, maybe all the stuff were just leeched from web =) who needs these groups?


By Dangermouse on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 12:52 am:

Well from what I've been able to gleam from over the last couple of months, Starks has been recruiting people from across the Internet, people that from what I can tell have no clue as to what the scene is.

If these people even know there art is being released on a 'public' basis via a pack and ultimately, a label, remains to be seen until Starks himself has something to say in his defence.


By Dangermouse on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 12:53 am:

'Glean' (isn't it?!!*@) bwsahahahahahaha


By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 07:12 am:

> Do you know that your art work is being released by a group called
> Fluid? I only asked because the recruiter (goes by the name Starks) has
> been known to release people's pictures without their permission. Also,
> I found it hard to believe that an artist as talented as yourself would
> be associated with such a character. If you have no idea what I am
> talking about, I'ld be happy to send you more information.

heh. Yeah, he kinda dragged me in before I knew anything about him. I
let him include a bunch of stuff in one of his releases, but since then
I got to talk with him regularly on IRC, and he just kept begging and
whining for "new vgaz". I'm out of the group now, but I honestly don't
mind my pictures being distributed as long as the credit isn't changed.

________________________________________

These "furry" pic artists may have actually been good for the scene. The artists Starks found are very well respected in their own scene that has a large following. It might have brought a few new people our way, but it also could have brought a whole lot of bullshit too. i.e. more people like Starks.


By RBeeS on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 11:06 pm:

I just wanīt to say, that I got really upset when I read this.
Starks a ripper...I canīt belive my eyes, (even if I take instruments and shit to my songs, but I think thatīs thereīs a little bit different) I'm a division department president now, but I donīt know if I'm going to stay now when I know this.


By Ripper on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 11:39 pm:

rbees: maybe youre just full of shit


By RBeeS on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 02:43 am:

That I'm full of shit has nothing to do whit this.


By Dangermouse on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 01:45 pm:

rbees: Just what were you trying to say in your first posting? I missed the whole point of it, as I am sure a lot of others have as well.


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